Nobody is denying that a conversation took place, but it was significantly different than what was being described. It was not an official meeting, Goolsbee was not representing the Obama campaign in the meeting and had no authority to discuss NAFTA, the NAFTA comments were 3-4 minutes of a much longer conversation on other subjects, and according to people who were there, he did not say what was being reported.
Those are the facts, but those details aren't important to you. Details matter, though, because without them, it's easy to paint lots of things as lies. If you ignore nuance, then Clinton was lying when she said she never supported NAFTA, and was most certainly lying when she said that the National Guard didn't have health insurance until she took action.
Regarding Rev. Wright, Obama's comments about what sermons he heard and did not hear are not inconsistent. And so what if he heard a few things he didn't agree with and stayed with the church? I thought intelligent people were supposed to be able to listen to views they disagreed without bolting for the door. I hear things on MyDD that I think are crazy all the time, but I keep coming back.
You know, I have to say it's getting tiresome repeating things to the who-cares-what-the-facts-are based community.
Please read the memo. Read it all. There are not one, not two, but three separate entries that say exactly what we've been satying they say, if you catch my drift. Remember that the memo itself is already just hits the high points.
Then go ahead and tell me the note-taker is part of the Hillary conspiracy or that Goolsbee was lying or that green is blue, whatever. I'm done.
I know how you feel.
I've read the memo.
And I've read Goolsbee's comments that DeMora's notes don't accurately reflect what he said.
And I've read the Statement by the Canadian Embassy supporting Goolsbee.
The memo was wrong all three times? Goolsbee denied it? Don't make me laugh. His ass was on fire.
I've never seen a credible denial by Canada. Show me a link.
Just to make it clear, in case this is what you're talking about:
"There was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA," the embassy statement said. "We deeply regret any inference that may have been drawn to that effect."
This was days later, after Canada was horrified at the dust-up, and had been accused of interfering in our election. And even then, it doesn't say "The memo misquoted" or "It was phony" or even "DeMora got it wrong." "There was no intention to convey" -- talk about a first class parse.
Whu-evah.